Banned driver got N.B. licence

Published Monday October 13th, 2008

Court City man pleads pleads guilty to failing breathalyser twice, driving while prohibited

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SAINT JOHN - A 58-year-old man, who is prohibited from driving in Canada until next summer and is wanted in two other provinces for failing to appear in court to face impaired and driving-while-prohibited charges, somehow applied for and received a New Brunswick driver's licence in July.

Since then, Andre Joseph Lemieux has racked up two more impaired driving convictions in Saint John.

On Sept. 27, at about 3:15 a.m., Lemieux was pulled over by police on Charlotte Street for driving the wrong way on a one-way street in his white minivan. He had a breathalyser reading of 130 milligrams of alcohol in 100 millilitres of blood. The legal limit is 80 mg.

Less than one week later, on Oct. 3, at about 3 a.m., Lemieux was on Union Street, in the designated left-turn lane at Sydney Street, when he ended up crossing into another lane and making an improper right turn onto Waterloo Street instead. He had a breathalyser reading of 120 milligrams of alcohol in 100 millilitres of blood.

Both are "the type of incidences that could kill someone," acting Crown prosecutor Jill Knee told provincial court during Lemieux's bail hearing.

Following the hearing, Lemieux, of Green Head Road, changed his plea to guilty of two counts of failing a breathalyser and a third charge of driving while prohibited.

He was prohibited from driving anywhere in Canada for three years by a court in Dryden, Ont., in August 2006 after being convicted of failing a breathalyser - his second such conviction, the court heard. He was previously convicted of failing a breathalyser in Quebec in April 2003.

Lemieux is wanted on a warrant in B.C. for failing to appear in court to face a Dec. 30, 2006 charge of driving while prohibited.

He is also wanted on three warrants in Quebec for failing to appear in court on a Dec. 19, 2006 impaired driving charge, June 22, 2005 charges of failing a breathyser and driving while disqualified, and Nov. 8, 2005 charge of failing to comply with a recognizance.

"He's looking at a significant period of incarceration, there's no question," said duty counsel Brian Ferguson.

Chrystiane Mallaley, media co-ordinator for the provincial Department of Public Safety, could not comment on Lemieux's case.

But there is a system in place that is supposed to prevent people who are prohibited from driving in another jurisdiction from getting a licence here, she said.

The interjurisdictional record exchange is a communications network maintained by the Canadian Council for Motor Transport Administrators that enables all provinces and territories to share information, including driver's licences and motor vehicle registrations.

So when someone applies for a New Brunswick driver's licence, officials at Service New Brunswick are able to verify on the spot whether that individual has a valid licence in another jurisdiction, said Mallaley.

If someone was prohibited from driving in another jurisdiction, they should be flagged in the system and would not be issued a New Brunswick licence, she said.

In addition, the individual must present a valid licence from the other jurisdiction, as well as two other pieces of identification.

And they must sign an application form, attesting that they're not a suspended or prohibited driver.

"That's what we do as a general practice," said Mallaley. The system has been in place since 1985.

"If a particular case comes to our attention ... we'll certainly go back and make sure our policies and procedures were properly followed."

Officials will also look for "any gaps or opportunities for improvement," she said.

The interjurisdictional record exchange would not contain information about warrants for arrest for failures to appear in court to face impaired driving charges, or pending charges in general, said Mallaley.

"We wouldn't have any knowledge of that or any ability or authority to withhold issuance of a licence if (an individual) had not been convicted of an offence."

Information about convictions, however, and any other infractions on someone's driving record, are forwarded to New Brunswick from the other jurisdiction where the individual was previously licensed. And that information would be applied to their licence here.

"The concept is one person, one record, one licence throughout the country. So when someone acquires a new licence in New Brunswick, their record physically moves to the motor vehicle branch here," explained Mallaley.

Lemieux plans to apply for curative treatment, which means he's willing to be assessed to see if he's a good candidate for substance abuse treatment.

If someone is deemed a good candidate and agrees to go through a treatment program, their sentence is usually less severe.

A curative treatment application hearing will be held on Oct. 21.

Judge Andrew LeMesurier has also ordered a pre-sentence report.

Lemieux remains in custody.

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Cases like this are exactly the reason why police have to start seizing the vehicles of impared drivers. just like when someone commits a crime with a gun, the gun is seized so the suspect cannot commit another crime with the gun.A vehicle to an impared driver is like a gun in the hands of a murderer.

This would also be a detterant to cut down on impared riving.
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Joe Doucette, Hampton on 13/10/08 07:28:11 AM AST
You are exactly right Joe. Unfortunately, 13 years of LIEberal rule allowed them to plant like minded individuals in the Canadian Justice System and that is why most officials now practice the LIEberal hug-a-thug program.
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B Hanley, Calgary on 13/10/08 02:29:01 PM AST
No wonder he got his Driver's License! Ever been to the Motor Vehicle,
in Saint John?? What a bunch of so called help!!
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L. C., Browns Flat on 14/10/08 12:13:43 AM AST
He's only agreeing to go to treatment so that he does not have to do jail time. You know what! He knew he was doing wrong every time he got behind the wheel drunk, and that is why he's moving from province to province so he can issue new licenses, he's not stupid in that sense, but stupid enough to drink and drive.
I'm just glad that no one has gotten hurt or even killed while he was on the road way above and beyond the normal alcohol level.
He should do jail time. He's wanted in how many provinces?? All for drinking and driving and not showing up for his court dates. He's not ready to get sober!! He just doens't want to go to Jail!!! If he shot a deer out of season he'd be in jail, but oh!! It's only drinking and driving. What's the excuse right now? He hasn't harmed anyone! One day he will. PUT HIM IN JAIL AND TEACH HIM LESSON!!!
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lisa m., saint john on 15/10/08 09:19:06 AM AST
Doesn't any one get it yet? N.B judges are pretty much promoting this kind of behavior,If your a child molester,or an abuser of any kind,a drunk driver or a crack head.you move right threw the system.you wonder why people grow dope and sell pills and crack.its a slap on the wrist,I have just recently sat in on a few cases in court this past year.IT"S pathetic I mean victims cry out and get nothing,instead thier redirected to councile.I'm in moncton and have to be a witness for a woman drunk driver case that has been ongoing since 09/05,at the time I was 6 months preg.this woman nearly hit us head on while driving on a back rd.we got out of her way but soon after we made her stop her vechile,she was very impaired and could not walk or stand we detained her til police arrived.long story short.I go back to court on nov15 for the 3 time since 2005 to be a witness and have this womans licens taken away..twist to story she has 2 more chages on her since then for impaired. con...
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sue b., montcon on 15/10/08 04:38:43 PM AST
we were told by the police that she has a good lawyer and its all stall tactics to keep it out of court long enough so it will be thrown out because of the time passed.meanwhile there are 4 of us to witness her impaired act and we have missed time at out jobs with out pay.we did our part a few times only to be let down again. Our system sucks ass...This woman[I wont call her a lady because I'm old school and know lady I'd know would act like that} totally shameful to be that intoxicated.I want this Judge to do his job we saved her that nite 1 from killing herself and 2from killing an innocent person.or worse making someone live a agonizing life as a vegetable and dependant on others for life because of her STUPIDNESS.after all she's a grown business woman with some scence I would think,Otherwise you could never own a big construction company.I will await her trial this and if she walks I will alert the press in order to keep our loved ones safe from her bad decision making.
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sue b., montcon on 15/10/08 04:53:24 PM AST
any body that gets drunk and gets behind the wheel they shouldn't be on the roads Period!!! I knew someone that got killed by a drunk driver and he got his head smashed in. My friend that worked in moncton did'nt even recognize him and he was an emergency worker he had to turn his head away because it made him physically ill..
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e b, charlottetown pei on 15/10/08 07:40:06 PM AST
Sue in Moncton,
Do you really believe she's going to get charged. If she owns a big business then she's putting money into the city and "let me see" paying off the judges and lawyers, cause she can afford to. The law is not for the victims anymore they are for the CRIMINALS.
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lisa m., saint john on 16/10/08 11:36:17 AM AST
your right Lisa,The police officers told us that she has paid over $20,000 on her lawyer already for this case,its frigging sad eh.I'm really hoping I get called to the stand I was 7 months pregnant at the time and I'm not impressed that its still going on and she has 2 other charges since 2006 and not been to trial for those either.That's a great system we have here in Canada.I wish that people would stand together and fight for better things like they use to.I know it gets discouraging and people find it easier to ignore whats going on around us and It's easier to let others make decisions on our behalf. but look where that has been getting us.Its not working to benefit the honest guy.I hate the fact that good ppl bring forth information about illegal actions and put threw the ringer with questions and have to go to court and make statements only to find it was really for nothing.
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sue b., montcon on 22/10/08 07:34:04 PM AST
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